Black Lives Matter with Karl Lokko

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Hello dear friends! When the whole movement of Black Lives Matters has reignited, we wanted to connect with our dear friend Karl Lokko to amplify the message of black community, to educate us, to help us understand what’s going on in the world right now and to explain to us what has to be done next. It’s more than ever important to listen right now. Tune in now and join our conversation.

Being an immigrant in the UK and a former gang leader, Karl Lokko knows everything about racism-based assaults and injustices. For him, in terms of global conversation on social standards within the groups, the black race seems to find themselves at the bottom, even in black countries.

If you really look at the recent history, Karl explains, the last 600 years and what it actually entailed in terms of the displacement of black people globally, you understand that people have become accustomed to inexplicit biases where they identify certain traits or characteristics or happenings with particular groups based on purely color of their skin.

“I mind sound naive, but I believe that the majority of the world isn’t racist, however the unconscious prejudices make the black experience very difficult.” - Karl Lokko

There comes the point of understanding that we are all humans, and we have good and bad in us. At the end of the day, you want to do good, but when the system puts you in the position where you feel excluded and underestimated, you lose the faith. That makes the alternatives–gangs–to be more desirable and attractive.

Now that our society is speaking about integration, we may not realize how hostile the environment could be to you if you haven’t gone through black community experience, very often faced with assaults and patronage. However, there are small steps we all can do to empower the community in these times:

  1. Instil change through economics that control politics and government.

  2. The most powerful thing to do is to start conversations, because they bring awareness, empathy, understanding. 

  3. Arm the groups that are experiencing hostility with the growth mindset, because things aren’t going to change over one night, we have to be able to navigate and negotiate life.

  4. Educate ourselves and our children.

“You, as a parent, have to change your own patterns, realising that the only way we can change globally as a humanity is in a way we raise our children, in the stories we tell them. You change it in your family, you change it in the world. But, first, you have to change it in yourself.” - Mimi Ikonn

Here is what else have discussed:

  • You can’t hide/mask being black

  • The reason of anger of black people

  • Living with assaults and microaggressions

  • The healing power of opening up about racism and having difficult conversations 

  • Subconscious messaging vs. racism

  • The vital role of right parenting 

  • What are the next steps for both, black and white community, to be equal

  • What superior mindset means

  • The spirit of black people and self-hate

  • Empowering community


Hope you enjoyed this week’s episode with Karl Lokko, you can find out more about him here:

Caterpillar to a Butterfly - The Ikonns Episode No. 44

Karl’s Instagram


One book Alex suggests reading to understand that we are all just human beings is Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind by Yuval Noah Harari.

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When the whole movement of Black Lives Matters reignited, we wanted to connect with our dear friend Karl Lokko to amplify the message of the black community, to educate us, to help us understand what's going on in the world right now. It's more than ever important to listen.

You can find out more about Alex and Mimi here:

https://www.ikonns.com/

http://www.mimiikonn.com/

http://www.alexikonn.com/

Mimi’s Instagram

Alex’s Instagram

https://www.youtube.com/mimiikonn

https://www.youtube.com/alexikonn

Produced by Jason Sanderson - Podcast Tech

Show notes by Veronica Joce